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Which of the Big Four New Orleans Eagles Is the Best Value?

By Doug WinterRareGoldCoins.com ……
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I think every collector would agree that the four rarest $10 gold eagles from the New Orleans Mint are the 1841-O, the 1859-O, the 1879-O, and the 1883-O. By analyzing PCGS and CAC population and price data, we should be able to reach some interesting conclusions. For the sake of brevity, let’s stick with coins that represent above-average quality for these four issues, which in this case is AU50 and higher. We won’t include MS60 and finer examples due to the extreme rarity of such coins for each of these four dates.[1]

1883-O Liberty Head Eagle. Image: Douglas Winter Numismatics.
1883-O Liberty Head Eagle. Image: Douglas Winter Numismatics.

First, let’s rank each issue by its original mintage figure:

  1. 1883-O: 800
  2. 1879-O: 1,500
  3. 1859-O: 2,300
  4. 1841-O: 2,500

It should be stressed that, on account of numerous factors, original mintages figures are not always accurate predictors of relative rarity.

1879-O Liberty Head Eagle. Image: Douglas Winter Numismatics.
1879-O Liberty Head Eagle. Image: Douglas Winter Numismatics.

Next, let’s rank each issue in terms of overall rarity (total known) according to the updated 2020 version of my book Gold Coins of the New Orleans Mint, 1838-1909.

  1. 1883-O: 45-55
  2. 1859-O: 60-70
  3. 1841-O: 65-75
  4. 1879-O: 70-80

How do these figures align with the numbers graded at PCGS? First, let’s rank from fewest to most the total number graded at PCGS for each date:

  1. 1883-O: 38
  2. 1859-O: 45
  3. 1879-O: 48
  4. 1841-O: 69

How many of these coins grade AU50 and finer?

  1. 1841-O: 18
  2. 1883-O: 21
  3. 1879-O: 26
  4. 1859-O: 29[2]
1859-O Liberty Head Eagle. Image: Douglas Winter Numismatics.
1859-O Liberty Head Eagle. Image: Douglas Winter Numismatics.

The percentage of coins graded in AU and finer versus the total number graded skews much higher than I would have thought, ranging from a low of 26% for the 1841-O to a high of 64% for the 1859-O. I have a quick answer for this: the population date for the 1859-O is absurdly high to due to resubmissions, plus many if not most of these coins are overgraded. This will be verified by the CAC population data I’ll be including in just a moment (see below).

1841-O Liberty Head Eagle. Image: Douglas Winter Numismatics.
1841-O Liberty Head Eagle. Image: Douglas Winter Numismatics.

Another thing to consider: the 1841-O is a first-year-of-issue coin and it tends to be found in low grades (Fine to Very Fine) when it is available. The 1879-O and 1883-O have different grade distributions, which tend more towards higher grades as they didn’t see much circulation.

Given that so many of the 1841-O and 1859-O eagles graded AU50 and AU53 by PCGS are not fully AU coins, in my opinion, it make sense to change our parameters for high-grade coins and include only coins grading AU55 and AU58 (but not Mint State).

  1. 1841-O: 7
  2. 1883-O: 8
  3. 1859-O: 10
  4. 1879-O: 13

One would expect that CAC has not approved many of the Big Four New Orleans eagles. Let’s look at the population figures for all AU coins (50-58) and then for high-end AU (55 and 58 only).

  1. 1859-O: 2; Five total in all grades; one in 55; zero in 58
  2. 1841-O: 3; 10 total in all grades; zero in 55; one in 58
  3. 1883-O: 5; Six total in all grades; one in 55; one in 58
  4. 1879-O: 6; 10 total in all grades; three in 55; three in 58

We can make a few conclusions about each of the four dates from this rarity-based data.

The 1841-O is the most common of the four coins in terms of overall rarity, but it is actually tied for the rarest in terms of high-grade rarity (AU55 and finer). It is most often seen well-worn, and this is mainly due to the fact that it saw much more use in local commerce than the other issues; especially the two With Motto coins, which as a rule saw little use in commerce, and were mostly shipped to foreign countries to pay down incurred in trade.

Unless you really know the series, the 1859-O is misleading based on the submission data. There are a surprising number of AU coins at PCGS but, as I stated above, these figures are greatly impacted by resubmissions and by junky coins in holders. The CAC data confirms this date’s appearance rarity.

Given its low mintage, you would expect the 1883-O to be the rarest of these four dates, and it is from an overall perspective. It is somewhat disingenuous to compare its high grade rarity to the 1841-O and the 1859-O, as With Motto New Orleans eagles made after 1877 tend not to have circulated in the same manner as the coins made prior to the American Civil War.

The 1879-O is not as rare as its low mintage suggests. It is still a very scarce coin (and it is extremely rare in Uncirculated), but it has survived at a higher percentage than its With Motto counterpart the 1883-O.

Now let’s look at PCGS Price Guide pricing information for all four dates in all four AU grades. Next to each price in parentheses, I’ve listed the order from highest to lowest:

PCGS Pricing Data on four key date New Orleans Mint Eagles.
PCGS Pricing Data on four key date New Orleans Mint Eagles.

Now let’s enumerate the total numbers graded at each AU level by PCGS:

PCGS Population Data for four key date New Orleans Mint Eagles.
PCGS Population Data for four key date New Orleans Mint Eagles.

Based on these figures and applying all of the caveats associated with this kind of study, I’ll make the following conclusions:

The 1841-O and the 1859-O are both undervalued in AU55 and AU58. This is especially true for CAC-quality coins. If the sole PCGS/CAC AU58 1841-O became available, it could easily bring $250,000, if not a bunch more. I feel the same way about the 1859-O. The current PCGS price of $60,000 in AU55 is—for a nice CAC coin—way too low.

The 1879-O feels like it is priced properly. This is taking into account that others will likely be located in the coming years, and that they will have a better shot of being CAC-worthy than either of the No Motto issues.

The 1883-O is always going to sell for a higher price than it probably deserves, as a result of its tiny original mintage of 800. That is not to say that this New orleans eagle is overvalued from a macro perspective; it is slightly overpriced in relation to the 1841-O and the 1859-O, but certainly not when compared to an issue such as a better date Carson City eagle from the 1870s, or a low-mintage San Francisco eagle from the Civil War era.

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Notes

[1] The 1841-O is unknown in Uncirculated, while the 1859-O is unique. Both the 1879-O and the 1883-O have an estimated two or possibly three Uncirculated pieces known as of late 2023, with none finer than MS61 for either issue.

[2] In my opinion, these numbers are VASTLY inflated by resubmissions.

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Doug Winter Numismatics, specialists in U.S. gold coins

 

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CoinWeek Video: Guess the Grade of This 1907 $10 Gold Eagle

  This week, CoinWeek has a 1907 Liberty Head eagle $10 gold coin for you to grade. This coin was certified by NGC and presents a challenge for even the most experienced coin graders. But it’s not just a 1907 eagle; this coin is also an overdate. We show you how to identify this feature […]

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CoinWeek Video: Guess the Grade of This 1907 $10 Gold Eagle

  This week, CoinWeek has a 1907 Liberty Head eagle $10 gold coin for you to grade. This coin was certified by NGC and presents a challenge for even the most experienced coin graders. But it’s not just a 1907 eagle; this coin is also an overdate. We show you how to identify this feature […]

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CoinWeek Video: Guess the Grade of This 1907 $10 Gold Eagle

  This week, CoinWeek has a 1907 Liberty Head eagle $10 gold coin for you to grade. This coin was certified by NGC and presents a challenge for even the most experienced coin graders. But it’s not just a 1907 eagle; this coin is also an overdate. We show you how to identify this feature […]

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The Million-Dollar Liberty Head Eagle

By Doug Winter – RareGoldCoins.com …… CoinWeek Content Partner It’s likely that Heritage’s recent sale of a PCGS AU53 1875 Liberty Head eagle will go largely unnoticed by non-specialists. After all, million-dollar coins are a common occurrence at coin auctions in the 2020s, and to get noticed today, a coin needs to hammer for at […]

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The New Orleans Mint: Part 3

By Victor Bozarth for PCGS …… Part 1 | Part 2   The New Orleans Mint was the only Southern mint reopened after the Civil War. Some of the considerations were practical. The gold deposits in the Southeast were starting to dissipate. Regional mints in Dahlonega, Georgia, and Charlotte, North Carolina, that had produced only […]

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Liberty Head Gold Eagles

By Bullion Shark LLC …… If you hear someone refer to “gold eagles”, you might think of the American Gold Eagle issued since 1986. But from the time that the first U.S. gold coins were issued in 1795, an eagle, or $10 gold coin, has been the base unit denomination for American gold coinage. Moreover, […]

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High-Grade Classic US Coin Highlights of Stack’s Bowers June Auction

By Christopher Maisano – Numismatist, Stack’s Bower Galleries …… Rainbow Proof Barber Quarter Proof Barber quarters are known for low mintages, as well as their beauty and desirability. Although produced in small numbers, Barber quarters come on the market more often than one would expect, and Cameo contrast, Gem grades, and brilliant or nicely toned […]

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Stack’s Bowers Offers Hendricks Sets of $10 Eagles, $20 Double Eagles From Fairmont Collection

$20 Double Eagle Gold Coins Stack’s Bowers Galleries is excited to announce the incredible Hendricks Set of $20 Double Eagles from the Fairmont Collection, a landmark feature of their Spring 2022 Showcase Auction. Spanning the Liberty Head and Saint-Gaudens series from 1850 through 1927, the $20 double eagles from the Hendricks Set exhibit the superior […]

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Why the Charlotte and Dahlonega Mints Were Built – Part 4

By Victor Bozarth for PCGS …… In parts one, two, and three of this four-part series, I discussed the early Europeans’ unsuccessful search for gold in what became the United States. Despite both Hernando de Soto and Francisco Vázquez de Coronado being “on top of gold” during their expeditions, neither was able to close the […]

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The “Common” 1875 $10 Eagle Pattern Coin

By Leo Frese – Independent Numismatic Consultant, LeoFreseCoins.com ……   A few years ago, an East Coast gentleman consigned his collection for me to market. Among his holdings was a Pattern that was quite “interesting”. My research and insights follow. * * * From the numismatic perspective, 1875 was a rather exciting year. First, Congress […]

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Collecting Carson City (CC) Coinage: Part Three – Gold Coins

By Victor Bozarth for PCGS …… In parts one and two of my series on collecting Carson City coinage, I discussed all of the small silver and dollar coin issues produced at the Carson City Mint, famous for its “CC” mint mark. While most of the Carson City Morgan Dollar issues are available across the […]

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Why High-Grade, Late-Date New Orleans Eagles are a “Safe Purchase”

By Doug Winter – RareGoldCoins.com …… CoinWeek Content Partner The 13 “late date” With Motto New Orleans Liberty Head eagles struck from 1888 to 1906 are a popular subset for collectors. None of these issues are rare from an absolute sense, and a decent set of Uncirculated graded coins (MS60 to MS62) is completable for […]

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So… What’s the Third Rarest No Motto New Orleans Eagle in High Grades?

By Doug Winter – RareGoldCoins.com ……   CoinWeek Content Partner   It’s pretty obvious to specialists that the two rarest No Motto New Orleans eagle $10 gold coins in higher grades (in this case, AU55 and better) are the 1841-O and the 1859-O. But there’s a lot of competition for the number three (and four) […]

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Classic US Gold Coins: What’s Hot and What’s Not – 2021 Edition

By Doug Winter – RareGoldCoins.com …… CoinWeek Content Partner With a few exceptions, I’ve written a “hot/not” article at the end of the year for the better part of the last decade. Some years this is an exercise in futility because everything seems tepid from a price standpoint. And during strong markets, I think it […]

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The Curious Case of the Condition Census 1879-CC Eagle

By Doug Winter – RareGoldCoins.com …… CoinWeek Content Partner In February 2020, I purchased an important Condition Census 1879-CC eagle from the Jacobson Collection sale conducted by Heritage. Housed in a PCGS AU58 holder, this coin cost me $55,200 USD. When I purchased the coin, I believed it was a really good deal and that […]

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Second-Finest Known 1884-CC $10, Submitted in Box of Bullion Gold, Certified by PCGS

By Jay Turner for PCGS …… It has been a long-known and open secret that tons of United States gold coins are in Europe, especially France. Anyone who has gone to the coin shops on the Rue Vivienne and surrounding areas in Paris can simply look at the window displays and see gold coins from […]

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Rare Ultra Cameo Proof 1883 $10 Eagle in Stack’s Bowers June 2020 Auction

By James McCartney – Senior Numismatist, Stack’s Bowers …… Proof gold coinage provides a special focus in United States numismatics, usually combining incredible visual appeal and extreme rarity. The Proof Liberty Head eagle is among the most popular but also the most challenging series in this category, with many annual mintages well below 50 pieces. […]

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Historic 1858 Proof Liberty Eagle Gold Coin Offered at Heritage Auctions

NGC PR64 Ultra Cameo CAC, the only specimen known to exist outside of museums, will headline Central States Numismatic Society auction An 1858 Liberty Head eagle, one of the most historic U.S. gold coins ever minted and the only specimen known outside of museums, will headline Heritage Auctions’ U.S. coins offerings during the Central States […]

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Two Cool Gold Liberty Head Eagles Recently Sold by Doug Winter Numismatics

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Just How Rare Are Gem $10 Gold No Motto Liberty Head Eagles?

By Doug Winter – RareGoldCoins.com …… CoinWeek Content Partner No Motto Liberty Head eagles were struck from 1838 through 1866. They were made at the Philadelphia, New Orleans, and San Francisco Mints in quantities ranging from small to quite large. One thing that links these issues is their rarity in higher grades. There is no […]

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The Hunt for the 1875 $10 Liberty Head Gold Eagle

By John Brush – President, David Lawrence Rare Coins (DLRC) …… The story of the D.L. Hansen Collection has been written several places and as we wind down the challenge of collecting an example of every circulation strike piece from the United States Mint, there are a few pieces that have eluded our grasp in […]

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Ron Guth – By the Numbers: The Harvey Jacobson, Jr. Collection of $10 Liberty Eagles

By Ron Guth ….. Number of lots: 184 Total prices realized (unofficial): $3,219,696 USD Average price per lot: $17,498.35 Price of the least valuable lot (1896 $10 in PCGS MS63 OGH CAC): $930 Price of the most valuable lot (1875 $10 in PCGS AU50): $632,500 The Harvey Jacobson, Jr. Collection On February 20, 2020, Heritage […]

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Lowest-Mintage Circulating U.S. Gold Coin Highlights Heritage Long Beach Expo Offerings

One of just 100 1875 Liberty Eagle. U.S. Gold Coin minted for circulation will be sold as part of a $10 Liberty set which is rarely completed   An 1875 $10 Liberty Eagle, the famous regular issue U.S. gold coin with the lowest circulation mintage ever recorded, highlights more than 2,000 lots in Heritage Auctions’ […]

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Lowest-Mintage Circulating U.S. Gold Coin Highlights Heritage Long Beach Expo Offerings

One of just 100 1875 Liberty Eagle. U.S. Gold Coin minted for circulation will be sold as part of a $10 Liberty set which is rarely completed   An 1875 $10 Liberty Eagle, the famous regular issue U.S. gold coin with the lowest circulation mintage ever recorded, highlights more than 2,000 lots in Heritage Auctions’ […]

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Classic US Coin Profiles: One of the Finest Known 1839/8 Type of 1838 $10 Eagles

Varieties of the 1839 $10 eagle are known with the Liberty Head design as seen on coins from 1838 (along with large letters on the reverse), as well as with the Liberty Head design as seen in 1840 and small letters on the reverse. The Type of 1838 $10 eagle is considerably more available and […]

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CAC and the Appearance Rarity of No Motto New Orleans Eagles

By Doug Winter – RareGoldCoins.com …… CoinWeek Content Partner I’ve gotten a lot of positive feedback about my previous article on appearance rarity. It is my contention that CAC has now seen enough coins that we can make important observations about how rare (or not rare) a specific issue is in regards to its appearance. […]

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Unprecedented $50 Million Gold Eagles Tyrant Collection Exhibit at February Long Beach Expo

More than 300 historic U.S. $10 coins in display of unparalleled set   A never-before-seen exhibit of United States $10 eagle gold coins from the extensive Tyrant Collection will be publicly displayed at the February 20-22, 2020 Long Beach Coin, Currency, Stamp & Sports Collectibles Expo. The unprecedented display, “Eagles of The Tyrant Collection”, will […]

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Doug Winter: A Record-Setting 1872-CC $10 Eagle Gold Coin

By Doug Winter – RareGoldCoins.com …… CoinWeek Content Partner Lost amidst all the hoopla at the recent 2020 FUN Show and auctions was the sale of one of the most remarkable US gold coins I have seen in a while. This coin was a totally fresh-to-the-market 1872-CC Liberty Head eagle graded MS62 by NGC, and […]

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Classic US Gold Coins – The Newbie’s Lament: What Should I Collect?

By Doug Winter – RareGoldCoins.com …… CoinWeek Content Partner …… For new collectors of vintage United States gold coins, one of the most puzzling questions to ask is: What should I collect? The answer, of course, depends on your budget, but it also depends on which sort of collection you are going to build: a […]

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Rare 1876-CC Liberty Head Eagle Gold Coin in Upcoming Stack’s Bowers Baltimore Auction

By James McCartney – Senior Numismatist, Stack’s Bowers ……   The 1876-CC $10 is a significant rarity and is elusive in all grades. With appeal to both Carson City enthusiasts and Liberty Head gold specialists, demand far exceeds supply. We are thrilled to offer a pleasing AU-53 (PCGS) example in lot 1112 of our upcoming […]

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US Gold Coins – A (Brief) Analysis of Low-Grade No Motto San Francisco Half Eagles and Eagles

By Doug Winter – RareGoldCoins.com …… CoinWeek Content Partner …… Over the last decade, I have become more and more interested in low-grade examples of No Motto San Francisco gold. By “low grade”, I mean coins in the AG3 to VF35 range, and by “No Motto” I am referring to the Liberty Head design type […]

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The Admiral’s Dozen: 12 Favorite Coins From the Heritage February Long Beach Sale

By Doug Winter – RareGoldCoins.com …… CoinWeek Content Partner …… I first found out about the offering of a complete set of Liberty Head eagles from an observant client who emailed me a link in early January. He’s a succinct guy and his subject line said it all: “Epic collection of Eagles to be offered.” […]

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Gold Eagles from The Admiral Collection Featured in Heritage Long Beach Auction

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Classic US Gold Coins – The Cool Coin 1834-1933 Gold Type Set

By Doug Winter – RareGoldCoins.com …… CoinWeek Content Partner …… Earlier in 2017, I wrote an article about collecting US gold coins by type. This article generated a lot of feedback; some favorable, some not. I was accused of being an elitist by some collectors, mainly because some of the coins discussed in the article […]

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Classic US Gold Coins – Three Underappreciated With Motto San Francisco Liberty Head Eagles

By Doug Winter – RareGoldCoins.com …… CoinWeek Content Partner …… While writing my October 2017 article on Liberty Head eagles, I spent time discussing the With Motto San Francisco issues, struck from 1866 to 1907. Three dates stood out as being overlooked and underappreciated and I think it would be useful to take a closer […]

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Classic US Coins – So You’ve Decided to Collect With Motto Liberty Head Eagles…

By Doug Winter – RareGoldCoins.com …… CoinWeek Content Partner ……   In January 2017, I wrote a blog in the “So You’ve Decided to Collect…” series about No Motto Liberty Head eagles. As the year comes to a close, I thought it would be interesting to write about the With Motto Liberty Head eagle coinage. […]

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Can You Collect Rare US Gold on a Budget of $2,500-5,000 per Coin?

By Doug Winter – RareGoldCoins.com …… CoinWeek Content Partner …… When I speak to new collectors, they are often under the impression that most of the coins I sell are in the five- and six-figure range. While my company does sell a good number of expensive US gold coins, the bread and butter items in […]

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Classic Gold US Coins – The “With Motto” New Orleans Eagle “Short Set”

By Doug Winter – RareGoldcoins.com CoinWeek Content Partner ……   Collectors who like completable themed sets don’t have a ton of options if they’re on a budget. Sure, there’s the Indian Head quarter eagle series; it is completable but the 1911-D is an expensive hole to fill. Or there are esoteric “subsets” like the San […]

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Classic US Gold Coins – The Rare and Underappreciated 1849-O Eagle

By Doug Winter – RareGoldcoins.com CoinWeek Content Partner …… In the No Motto New Orleans eagle series (produced from 1841 through 1860), there are two well-known rarities: the 1841-O and the 1859-O. The next rarity tier consists of four issues: the 1849-O, 1852-O, 1856-O and 1857-O–which are extremely hard to locate in About Uncirculated and […]

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A Dozen Unheralded San Francisco Gold Issues Which (Almost) Never Come Nice

By Doug Winter – RareGoldcoins.com CoinWeek Content Partner …… There are numerous San Francisco issues that are known for their typically ratty appearance. This “rattiness” may be the result of extensive commercial use, numismatic abuse, or poor strike/planchet preparation. This blog is not about these issues; it is about some of the seemingly more available […]

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Elusive Mint State Liberty Head Gold Coins in Baltimore Rarities Night Auction

By James McCartney, Numismatist & Cataloger – Stack’s Bowers ….. Lot 3133 in our Rarities Night Session of our March 2017 Baltimore Auction will spotlight a gorgeous MS-60 (PCGS) CAC example of the 1852-O double eagle, struck just two years after the introduction of the denomination to American commerce. The 1852-O double eagle is in […]

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So You’ve Decided to Collect No Motto $10.00 Liberty Head Gold Eagles…

By Doug Winter – RareGoldcoins.com CoinWeek Content Partner …… Liberty Head eagles were struck from 1838 through 1907 and exist in two distinct design types: No Motto (1838-1866) and With Motto (1866-1907). This article is going to focus on the No Motto issues from two perspectives: affordable coins (in this case up to $5,000 or […]

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Doug Winter Numismatics Buys Gem 1850-O Eagle, Ex-Eliasberg at 2017 FUN Show

By Doug Winter – RareGoldcoins.com CoinWeek Content Partner …… For a variety of reasons (including some below), No Motto Liberty Head eagles are exceedingly rare in higher grades. Even “common” issues from Philadelphia produced in the 1840s and ’50s are rare in the lower Uncirculated grades and mostly unknown in MS63 to MS64; let alone […]

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Record Prices for Sierra Madre Gold Collection at GreatCollections

The results are in for the Sierra Madre Collection of U.S. Gold Coins, sold by GreatCollections on Sunday, December 18, 2016. Comprised of 55 pieces, the sale of the classic gold coins set many records, helped by the older generation slabs they were housed in. “The theme of the collection: Exceptional coins bring exceptional money,” […]

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Classic US Coins – The New Orleans Eagle Market is Sizzling

By Doug Winter – RareGoldcoins.com CoinWeek Content Partner …… The recent Stacks Bowers Baltimore auction contained a group of comparatively high grade New Orleans eagles which contained a few very important pieces. While admittedly a small sample size (just seven coins), the prices realized were all very strong. This leads me to conclude that this […]

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Coin Collecting Strategies – Building a Type Set of U.S. $10 Gold Eagle Coins

Coin Rarities & Related Topics: News and Analysis regarding scarce coins, markets, and coin collecting #357 A Weekly CoinWeek Column by Greg Reynolds ….. Just seven coins are needed for a regular type set of gold eagles (U.S. $10 Gold eagle coins). The purpose here is to discuss building such a set without spending a fortune, […]

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Coin Collecting Strategies: The Concept of the Stretch Date

By Doug Winter – RareGoldcoins.com CoinWeek Content Partner …… Unless you are a very savvy collector, it is likely that many of the preconceptions you have about building your set(s) of choice are wrong. One of the most egregious mistakes that I see set collectors make has to do with the decision of what grade […]

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