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1798 Small Eagle Draped Bust Dollar – Jack Young’s Fun With Fakes

By Jack D. Young, Early American Coppers (EAC), and the Dark Side Group ……
In a past CoinWeek article, I reviewed a “family” of counterfeits based on a 1799 variety of the Draped Bust silver dollar, Large Eagle reverse, with various dated obverses. I have also previously discussed the “mix and match” approach employed by counterfeiters of using various dies for their fakes. And along those lines, we now have the combination featured in this installment of “Fun with Fakes”!

As in my previous articles, this one will start with a recent “Bay” listing:

An eBay listing of a counterfeit 1798 Draped Bust Dollar coin.
An eBay listing of a counterfeit 1798 Draped Bust Dollar coin.

Running through the attribution of this coin resulted in NO matches; there are only two varieties of the 1798 Small Eagle reverse and this one isn’t either.

Collecting Notes snippet from PCGS.com. Image: Google.
Collecting Notes snippet from PCGS.com. Image: Google.

The obverse looked familiar when I saw it, but it didn’t match with this reverse. And the reverse looked familiar, but not with this obverse!

Enlarged photograph of a counterfeit 1798 Draped Bust Dollar coin from an eBay listing.
Enlarged photograph of a counterfeit 1798 Draped Bust Dollar coin from an eBay listing.

The obverse is the same as used in this “1798” example from the previously mentioned article, mated to the counterfeit 1799 Large Eagle reverse with common marks.

Previous 1798 large eagle Internet example (image from the Coin Week article).
Previous 1798 large eagle Internet example (image from the Coin Week article).

A little digging yielded the source of the Small Eagle reverse, also actually from another of my CoinWeek articles; this reverse is from the 1795 off-center bust dollar.

Subject “1798” on left, counterfeit 1795 reverse on right (image from the Coin Week article).
Subject “1798” on left, counterfeit 1795 reverse on right (image from the Coin Week article).

So, the first “twist” in this story is the swapping of dies from my two CoinWeek articles on counterfeit early dollars to create this new “variety”.

Searching the usual suspects on the internet yielded this same obverse, but the Large Eagle reverse example on eCRATER:

Current eCRATER ad- direct from China.
Current eCRATER ad- direct from China.

Continued searching resulted in finding this example on DHgate:

Past DHgate ad for “copy coins”.
Past DHgate ad for “copy coins”.

Looks like a direct match to the subject example for quite a bit less money than the eBay listing price! Fortunately, that listing was removed before a possible sale.

The next “twist” will be in finding differently dated examples with the same counterfeit combination as this 1798 Small Eagle Draped Bust dollar – I appreciate all the help I can get in finding and documenting them as the next fake “family”.

Obverse and reverse of counterfeit 1799 Draped Bust dollar coin. Image: eBay.
Obverse and reverse of counterfeit 1799 Draped Bust dollar coin. Image: eBay.

And then I found this “1799”: a different obverse but the same reverse.

Most collectors with a little experience in early U.S. dollars and a Red Book should know that the Small Eagle design was used only from 1795 through 1798 with the Draped Bust obverse, not 1799. So, this “coin” is in reality another “numismatic anomaly” – my neologism for some of these finds! Wouldn’t you know it, the seller states “1795-1798″…

Best as always,

Jack


 

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Guess the Grade of This 1803 Draped Bust Silver Dollar

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Louis Golino: Ten Coins I’d Love to Own

  By Louis Golino, special to CoinWeek ….. The 10 coins I would love to own include four modern and four classic American coins and two modern world issues. There are plenty of pieces that would be part of my list if it included more than 10 coins, from ancient coins like a nice Greek […]

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Struck Counterfeit Coins: A Second “Family” of Struck Fake Draped Bust Dollars

By Jack D. Young, Early American Coppers (EAC) …… As I noted in my past CoinWeek article on the 1795 “off-center” Bust dollar fakes, my discussion at the 2019 Dayton EAC Convention on counterfeits included three “families” of fakes: the 1804 “C-6” half cent set; the 1833 “N-5” large cent set; and the 1795 “off-center” […]

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Encore Dollars: Dollar Coins That Came Back One More Time

By Joshua McMorrow-Hernandez for PCGS ……   Many coin series come and go, never to be struck again. And others take a numismatic bow only to hit the stage one more time for a surprise encore appearance some years later. Many United States coins have come back after years absent from the production schedule, as […]

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Struck Counterfeit Coins: A Family of Struck Fake Draped Bust Dollars

By Jack D. Young, Early American Coppers (EAC) …… In a discussion at the 2019 Dayton EAC Convention on counterfeits, we talked of three “families” of fakes: the 1804 “C-6” half cent set, the 1833 “N-5” large cent set, and the 1795 “off-center bust” dollar set. The 1795 off-center bust, known as variety B-14 or […]

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1807 half dollars reflect early Mint history

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Collecting Classic US Coins – The Silver Dollars of Our Founding Fathers

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Discovering scarcity of 1801 Draped Bust dollar

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King of American Coins Acquired by David Lawrence Rare Coins and D.L. Hansen

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Heritage Auctions – Seldom Seen Selections: Presentation Strike 1795 Draped Bust Dollar

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PCGS Confirms Major New 1798 Dollar Variety

  There’s been a big discovery in early American numismatics. Professional Coin Grading Service (www.PCGS.com) has authenticated a long-speculated but never-before-confirmed new obverse and reverse die combination on a 1798 Draped Bust silver dollar. This new die marriage was struck from known obverse and reverse dies, but this is first known example with this combination. […]

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